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Multiple times in Against the Machine, Kingsnorth ventures that Marx's critique of capitalism was spot on even if his solution was entirely unworkable. I would apply the same criticism to his book. We are sliding toward techno feudalism; I don't think anyone can argue that. Whether we're talking about Flock networks, loops of Ring doorbell cams, Peter Thiel's massive government contracts, or Bezo's key chain full of monopolies, the Machine is enclosing everything from our digital likeness to our attention and personal economy. This is a dire situation and Kingsnorth is right to address this with the language of catastrophe. I would also agree with him that this situation is spiritual damaging. Fractured concentration cannot access spiritual realities. I'm sorry if you disagree, but we've got two millennia of religious writings from as far West as Spain and as far east as Japan saying as much.

Where I think Kingsnorth goes off the rails is when he begins to conflate the symbols he operates under with the archetypes they point to. That man desperately wants to be a hobbit. I'm not being cute here. I actually don't think you can fully appreciate where Kingsnorth is coming from unless you understand the impact that Tolkien's writings are having on a certain class of men. The LoTR was Tolkien's attempt to craft a new mythological history for Europe - one that embodied the broader Christian, pagan, and folk roots of England. What most people miss is that mythologies don't just look backwards. They tell us how to look forward as well. LoTR is prescriptive and it's images of quiet rural life, heroism, skepticism of technology, and tendency toward hierarchy form the mythological basis for many people who did not have a solid formation in Christianity or other traditions. It fills a void, shapes their thinking, and guides behavior. It's the water they swim in and they breath it, often unconsciously.

The mythology Tolkien composed was True, but the symbols themselves are just the vehicle for delivery. It's important to recognize where inspiring image and practical reality diverge. I think writers like Kingsnorth come off as Romantic, idealistic, and bougie because they are trying to birth an impractical, idealized vision into a universe that simply won't allow such a perfected visions to condense. At best, they attempt to ram that vision into a preexisting structure - like homesteading or trad Christianity - that either can't contain it or ends up being a warped simulacrum of the real thing. The truth is, we can't build the New Jerusalem. We can only look toward it with hope.

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It’s hard to know where to start with this. For one, it probably would have been better left unsaid that Kingsnorth reminded you of several exes. It leaves you vulnerable to the accusation that you’re not really responding to his actual ideas, which would already not be a hard case to make.

Kingsnorth acknowledges the machine is great at producing material comfort and convenience. What he’s trying to wake many of us up to is that these things are not cost-free.

He quotes E.F. Schumacher in the chapter “Want is the Acid” to make the point and provide the antidote:

“The dangerous results of untrammeled want have been known since the dawn of time, which is why every sane culture has discouraged it rather than making it the basis of its value system. But an ancient problem…will have ancient solutions - if we choose to go looking for them. To those who ask ‘What can I actually do?’ he said the answer was as simple as it is disconcerting: we can, each of us, work to put our own inner house in order. The guidance we need for this work cannot be found in science or technology, the value of which utterly depends on the ends they serve; but it can still be found in the traditional wisdom of mankind.”

Needless to say, the wisdom of humanity has so far been silent on the virtues of big trucks and big butts.

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