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Jerry's avatar

This is the first really original perspective on AI that I've read in a while.

The technical points are very accurate. I'm familiar with Fraser's work; you mention his essay is "worth spending time with" – I can probably guess which one – but it's not linked in your essay.

I don't work on language models directly, but am a software engineer, and sit reasonably close to where some of the sausage is made. Of the three parts of an LLM that Fraser described, I'd like to tease apart two: the language model itself, and the "fictional character" or personality. I think of these as the former sitting nested inside the latter. The model itself is a only mathematical artifact (a probability distribution, to use jargon) represented as a software system. The personality layer is the complicated part: it queries the model, then it filters, neutralizes, and otherwise recasts the model's response. The personality layer is also a software system, one with lots of machine learning ingredients, it is this part where the commercial players spend the lion's share of their investment. This is where *theater* is manufactured, as your metaphor so eloquently puts it.

I've always been fascinated by the language model itself, what ML engineers sometimes call the "shoggoth." Since the mathematical artifact is only able to play back linguistic samples from within the contours of every linguistic sample it has already absorbed, it is essentially a mirror of our collective selves – a very distorted mirror, admittedly. My fascination is specifically with the idea that this mirror might contain some smooth patches that could in turn be used as a tool (or "lens") to examine parts of our collective selves in a way that has until now never been imagined. Your essay tempered some of my hopes. It draws into relief that we are biologically disposed to experience language as a form of reality. And that by attempting to use linguistic tools to probe a linguistic collective, still none of us will ever be able to access a meta-reality beyond the linguistic reality. It's probably why the word shaggoth exists.

I'll admit that I am basically ignorant of theater; I think this is why I love the essay so much! The pieces discussed at the end of the essay are fascinating examples that really drive your point home for me. I learned something – and would love to see any of those pieces on the stage.

Gregory Forché's avatar

There are numerous intriguing thoughts in this highly worthwhile read.

For me, the main argument is that interacting with LLMs invokes a familiar mimetic situation (the theatre) but with a very dark twist.

The user is enrolled into a play in which their role is hidden from them. The status of the role playing partner is obscured. There is an unresolvable ambiguity between real and imagined, and significantly, the experience is an isolated one where there is no afterward, no social interpretation possible for the user to ground themselves once again in a shared social reality.

You said these things more eloquently, of course, and I agree. Being a bit hopeful I will say that this space (Substack) makes it possible in some way to have that drink after the performance where interpretive and life-giving banter take place. It’s not the same thing but it is something.

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