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Mase M.'s avatar

“America doesn’t appreciate moderation in any form, so it ricochets between Prohibition and the fraternity basement, glut and excess. Perhaps this moment will allow room for a reconsideration of our relationship with the substance — our inability to treat it as rite rather than anesthesia, or else shun it outright — as a symptom of something deeper.”

My fav quote. You’re an inspiration and rockstar, Sav

Savannah Huitema's avatar

Thank u Mase!

John Madrid's avatar

"A theology without grace" is the line doing the work here. Everything else follows from it, including the podcaster's sleep score, which is a penance in search of a priest.

The ritual question looks a little different from this side of the Atlantic, though. We have one. The round is a genuine rite, with rules and obligations, and it went on functioning perfectly well while the drinking underneath it turned into anaesthesia anyway. Half the pubs in Britain are full of people performing a rite they stopped meaning years ago. Which makes me wonder whether keeping the ritual would have saved us either.

Savannah Huitema's avatar

Penance in search of a priest. I love. And I’m not certain…I have to think about this more

John Madrid's avatar

Been chewing on it since I posted. Maybe the difference is who the rite is owed to. The round is an obligation to other people, so it survives even after the meaning drains out of it. The sleep score is an obligation to yourself, and there's nobody in that arrangement with the standing to forgive you. Which puts us back at your grace problem, I think.

David Snider's avatar

Is the anaesthesia an escape in search of a decent place to land, or a decent way to live?

Alex Kalamaroff's avatar

This was very interesting, and I enjoyed reading it! Thank you!

One of my thoughts on the topic (or why I no longer wear a FitBit) is how often it seems like an extreme focus on health ends up resulting in fragility and neuroticism rather robustness. Like with the health influencer who felt like a sack of ass for three whole days just because he drank one Sazerac. Wouldn't a truly healthy person be (a) able to rebound more rapidly and/or (b) shrug off the woe and keep it moving?

David Snider's avatar

The god of ecstasy, theater, transformation, music and sacred disorder? I doubt it gets any better than that.

Thank you for writing this!

Savannah Huitema's avatar

No better god to be :)

David Snider's avatar

Indeed!

Robert Labossiere's avatar

Is there a name for the excess of moral virtue? Perhaps it too will be discovered to be addictive, a disease.

David Snider's avatar

“Sometimes you need to moderate the moderation,” said the Zen monk, after the pastrami sandwich.

Glenn Ebo Perry's avatar

“There are virgins and sluts” -

Well, that’s clearly just nuts -

And a MILF may enjoy adoration.

Perhaps giving up booze and subsisting on plants

Will prolong Western Civilization.

What about the poor souls, unrepentant

bluff proles

With Big Macs, bargain smokes, and malt liquor?

They succumb to psychosis as well as cirrhosis

Who cares if they die a bit quicker?